The Moabite Stone:
Kills the Skeptics
Skeptics Die another Death: as the Moabite Stone crushes their hard earned false narrative.
“The Truth has been set in Stone”–literally!
The Moabite Stone dating back to Mesha, King of Moab (a fierce enemy of the Israelites) circa the 9th BC; gives the testimony of Moab, that they defeated their Enemy Israel, and rebelled against their rule. This Testimony is in perfect harmony with the Book of Kings testimony: found in the Bible Passages Below.
1 After the death of Ahab, Moab rebelled against Israel 5 6 7.
Just how evil was Mesha, King of Moab and the practice of his religion?
See section #1 below.
These Bible Scriptures confirm, the existence of Moab, and the Conflict with Israel, as well as the rebellion of Mesha King of Moab.
See section #2 below.
The Moabite Stone confirms, the boasting of Mesha, and the victory he, his god (the evil idol Chemosh–promoting child sacrifice) and his people achieved. How Mesha threw off the yoke of Israel, and thus served them no more.
A little bit down the road here: are the general written contents declared on the Moabite Stone in section #3 below.
Section #4, is dedicated to the explaining the perverted Worship Practices of Chemosh, and the Moabite people and culture: which included sexual orgies, and allegedly included temple Male and Female prostitutes, and mass human sacrifices.
What should be the final take away? What can we learn from the historical evidence deeply intertwined through the Bible narrative, starting with the testimony of Moses, declaring the life stories of: ABRAHAM AND LOT his nephew: and the conflict between Abraham, and THE KINGS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH (and the conquest of the Kings that Abraham defeated, who had previously, defeated Sodom and Gomorrah, and taken captive, Lot, his nephew), and the continuing conflict between the sons of Abraham (THE ISRAELITES), and the sons of Lot (the Moabites and the Ammonites), starting in the Exodus Story, (including the stories of JOSHUA, and BALAAM, an Aramean diviner from Pethor (in northern Syria).) and continuing until the days of Ahab and his sons, the Kings of Israel.
What can we take away from all this? That God’s Testimony is a FAR DEEPER, and more deeply connected, and intergrated Spiritually & Historically, Honestly & Truthfully providing Covenant Concepts and Testimonies being repeated that can be related and taught to every generation. It is constantly providing, Heavenly Biblical Instruction, teaching all who have ears to Hear, and eyes to See, that God has invited us to come to His Table, and Sup (dine) with Him in His Glory.
In other words the entire Testimony of God is leading up to a final Climax, just like every Good Story will tend to do. The only difference and the big difference, between God’s story, and man’s stories, is that God’s story gives undeniable, inextricable, as well as, supernatural evidence of the finger of God, writing God’s story, and allowing it to be confirmed throughout history, as the one true reliable, and God preserved testimony regarding his kingdom and his invitation.
The Invitation continues to go out, only the prophesy seems to keep being fulfilled that: “Many are called, but few are chosen.”
[The hope of this presentation is directed and motivated by the fact that: the truth shall set you free. Truth that cannot be cross-examined or verified, tends to have less credibility and truth that is repeatedly cross-examined, criticized, perjured, and regularly attacked, but it still remains pure and clean, and puts the skeptics to shame.
I know because I was one of those skeptics. I was one of those cryptic critics, I believed the Bible was full of fantasies, errors, misinterpretations, and fallacies. After doing my best to prove it wrong, I realized every time I tried to prove something wrong in the Bible, it overwhelmingly proved me wrong, over and over again. I recommend everyone that doubts the Bible’s integrity to try and prove it wrong and see what happens. That is what happened to the skeptic below that converted him to be a skeptic no more.]
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7TZ5CSv9Y”
Section #1:
How evil was King Mesha, King of Moab?
Answer:
The Bible explicitly records that King Mesha of Moab sacrificed his firstborn son as a burnt offering during a military crisis. This event is described in 2 Kings 3:26–27:
“When the king of Moab saw that the battle was too fierce for him, he took with him seven hundred swordsmen to break through to the king of Edom, but they could not. Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a burnt offering on the city wall. And there came great wrath against Israel, so they withdrew from him and returned to their own land.”
Key Details:
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Single Son Sacrificed:
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Historical Context:
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Mesha’s Rebellion: The sacrifice occurred during Mesha’s rebellion against Israel, Judah, and Edom (2 Kings 3:4–27)63.
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Archaeological Corroboration: The Mesha Stele (Moabite Stone) confirms Mesha’s reign and conflicts with Israel, though it does not explicitly mention the sacrifice25.
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Theological Implications:
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Child Sacrifice: Common in ancient Near Eastern pagan worship (e.g., Leviticus 18:21 condemns it)27.
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Outcome: The act triggered “great wrath against Israel,” likely referring to:
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Conclusion:
The Bible records one specific sacrifice of Mesha’s eldest son, with no mention of additional sons. This aligns with broader ancient Near Eastern practices of human sacrifice in extreme crises42.
Footnotes
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GotQuestions: The son’s sacrifice aimed to appease Chemosh and repel Israel.
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Bible Hub: The act is framed as a pagan ritual condemned by biblical standards.
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2 Kings 3:27 Analysis: The heir’s sacrifice underscored Mesha’s desperation.
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BAS Library: The sacrifice was a last-ditch effort to invoke Chemosh’s favor.
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Ancient Origins: The sacrifice ended the war, either through divine intervention or psychological impact.
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Encyclopedia of the Bible: Mesha’s rebellion and the siege context are detailed.
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Dr. Claude Mariottini: Child sacrifice was a known pagan practice in the region.
Citations:
- https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mesha
- https://library.biblicalarchaeology.org/article/why-king-mesha-of-moab-sacrificed-his-oldest-son/
- https://www.gotquestions.org/Moabite-king-sacrificed-his-son.html
- https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Kings%203:27
- https://biblehub.com/q/did_the_moabite_king_sacrifice_his_son.htm
- https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-writings/2800-year-old-stele-tells-bible-story-different-point-view-008087
- https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Mesha-King-Moab
- https://claudemariottini.com/2014/02/10/child-sacrifice-at-carthage-and-in-israel/
- https://biblehub.com/2_kings/3-27.htm
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Section #2:
Scriptures Mentioning King Mesha,
Omri, Ahab, King Jehoram, and the Moabite Conflict
Below are the primary biblical passages that mention King Mesha of Moab, the Israelite kings Omri, Ahab, and Joram (Jehoram), and the conflict between Moab and Israel, especially the rebellion of Mesha and the campaign of the three kings:
1. 2 Kings 3:4–27
This is the main biblical account of the conflict between Mesha, king of Moab, and the Israelite coalition led by Joram (Jehoram), with Jehoshaphat of Judah and the king of Edom: (These kings ruled near the Time of the Prophets: Elijah and Elisha.)
4 Now Mesha king of Moab was a sheep breeder, and he had to deliver to the king of Israel 100,000 lambs and the wool of 100,000 rams.
5 But when Ahab died, the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel.
6 So King Jehoram marched out of Samaria at that time and mustered all Israel.
7 And he went and sent word to Jehoshaphat king of Judah, “The king of Moab has rebelled against me. Will you go with me to battle against Moab?” And he said, “I will go. I am as you are, my people as your people, my horses as your horses.”
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26 When the king of Moab saw that the battle was going against him, he took with him 700 swordsmen to break through, opposite the king of Edom, but they could not.
27 Then he took his oldest son who was to reign in his place and offered him for a burnt offering on the wall. And there came great wrath against Israel. And they withdrew from him and returned to their own land 1 5 6 7.
2. 1 Kings 16:21–28
This passage details the reign of Omri, father of Ahab, who subjugated Moab (the Mesha Stele claims Moab was oppressed by Omri and his descendants for 40 years):
21 Then the people of Israel were split into two factions; half supported Tibni son of Ginath for king, and the other half supported Omri.
22 But Omri’s followers proved stronger than those of Tibni son of Ginath. So Tibni died and Omri became king.
23 In the thirty-first year of Asa king of Judah, Omri became king of Israel, and he reigned twelve years, six of them in Tirzah.
24 He bought the hill of Samaria from Shemer for two talents of silver and built a city on the hill, calling it Samaria, after Shemer, the name of the former owner of the hill.
25 But Omri did evil in the eyes of the Lord and sinned more than all those before him.
28 Omri rested with his ancestors and was buried in Samaria. And Ahab his son succeeded him as king2.
3. 1 Kings 16:29–34
This passage introduces Ahab, son of Omri, who continued his father’s policies and whose death led to Mesha’s rebellion:
29 In the thirty-eighth year of Asa king of Judah, Ahab son of Omri became king of Israel, and he reigned in Samaria over Israel twenty-two years.
30 Ahab son of Omri did more evil in the eyes of the Lord than any of those before him…
34 In Ahab’s time, Hiel of Bethel rebuilt Jericho. He laid its foundations at the cost of his firstborn son Abiram, and he set up its gates at the cost of his youngest son Segub, in accordance with the word of the Lord spoken by Joshua son of Nun 2 3.
4. 2 Kings 1:1
This verse notes the initial Moabite rebellion after Ahab’s death:
1 After the death of Ahab, Moab rebelled against Israel 5 6 7.
5. Additional Contextual Verses
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The reigns of Omri, Ahab, Ahaziah, and Joram are chronicled in 1 Kings 16–22 and 2 Kings 1–3.
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The Moabite oppression and tribute are referenced in 2 Kings 3:4–5.
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The alliance of Israel, Judah, and Edom against Moab is described in 2 Kings 3:7–27 4 7.
Summary Table
King | Scripture References | Notable Events |
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Omri | 1 Kings 16:21–28 | Subjugated Moab, father of Ahab |
Ahab | 1 Kings 16:29–34; 2 Kings 1:1 | Reigned after Omri, Moab rebelled after his death |
Joram | 2 Kings 3:1–27 | Led Israel, Judah, and Edom against Mesha’s Moabite rebellion |
Mesha | 2 Kings 3:4–27 | Rebelled after Ahab’s death, fought coalition, sacrificed son, ended campaign |
These passages together provide the full biblical account of the Moabite king Mesha, the Israelite kings Omri, Ahab, and Joram, and the significant conflict between Moab and Israel125678.
Citations:
- https://biblearchaeology.org/research/divided-kingdom/3437-mesha-king-of-moab
- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+16%3A21-34&version=NIV
- https://sarata.com/bible/verses/about/ahab.html
- https://biblehub.com/topical/ttt/m/moabites–israel_and_judah_joined_against.htm
- https://www.patternsofevidence.com/2019/05/25/mesha-stele-links-to-israels-kings/
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesha
- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+3&version=NASB%3BISV
- https://biblehub.com/topical/naves/m/mesha–king_of_moab–tributary_to_ahab.htm
- https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Mesha-King-Moab
- https://www.gotquestions.org/King-Omri.html
- https://www.gotquestions.org/Moabite-king-sacrificed-his-son.html
- https://www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/jehoram-joram.html
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesha_Stele
- https://christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a019.html
- https://biblehub.com/2_kings/3-4.htm
- https://library.biblicalarchaeology.org/article/why-king-mesha-of-moab-sacrificed-his-oldest-son/
- https://biblehub.com/topical/ttt/m/moabites–always_hostile_to_israel.htm
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesha_Stele
- https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/what-the-evil-king-omri-teaches-us-about-the-dangers-of-bad-leaders.html
- https://www.openbible.info/topics/king_ahab
- https://bibleproject.com/bible/nlt/2-kings/3/
- https://2fwww.bibleodyssey.com/articles/moab/
- https://www.britannica.com/biography/Omri
- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+20%3A1-22%3A38&version=NABRE
- https://www.openbible.info/topics/moab
- https://biblehub.com/commentaries/2_kings/3-4.htm
- https://bibleproject.com/bible/nasb/2-kings/3
- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+3&version=GNT
- https://www.jstor.org/stable/23508436
- https://www.thetorah.com/article/ataroth-and-the-inscribed-altar-who-won-the-war-between-moab-and-israel
- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+3&version=AMP%3BGNT
- https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mesha
- https://www.apostolicfaith.org/daybreak-and-discovery/2-kings-3-1-27
- https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2023/03/16/mesha-an-archaeological-biography/
- https://biblehub.com/2_kings/3-6.htm
- https://www.icr.org/article/moabite-kings-boast-corroborates-genesis
- https://www.christianity.com/wiki/people/who-is-king-ahab-in-the-bible.html
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Section #3:
Summary of the Moabite Stone
as Presented in the Video
Summary of the Moabite Stone as Presented in the Video
Overview
The video discusses the Moabite Stone (also known as the Mesha Stele), an archaeological artifact dating to the 9th century BC, and argues that it provides strong evidence for the historical reliability of the Bible. The stone is presented as a direct challenge to claims—especially from Islamic and atheist perspectives—that the Bible has been corrupted or is merely a collection of myths1.
Key Points from the Video
- The Moabite Stone is a 34-line inscription written in the Moabite language by King Mesha of Moab. It commemorates his military victories and rebellion against the Kingdom of Israel1.
- The inscription directly references events, people, and places mentioned in the Bible, such as King Omri of Israel, the Moabite rebellion, and the practice of taking religious artifacts as spoils of war. These details align closely with accounts found in 2 Kings 3:4–5 and other biblical passages1.
- The artifact specifically mentions the Israelite god Yahweh, providing evidence that Yahweh was worshiped by Israel as early as the 9th century BC. This challenges the argument that monotheistic worship of Yahweh developed much later1.
- The video emphasizes that the Moabite Stone is an external, non-Israelite source confirming the existence of Israel, its kings, and its religious practices. This external corroboration is presented as undermining claims that the Bible was later fabricated or corrupted1.
- The video also addresses Islamic claims that the Bible’s message was distorted over time. It argues that the Moabite Stone, predating the Quran by centuries, confirms the biblical narrative and the worship of Yahweh in a manner consistent with the Old Testament1.
- The overall message is that archaeological evidence, such as the Moabite Stone, substantiates the Bible’s historical reliability and refutes the notion that it is merely a collection of myths or later inventions. 1.
Table: Moabite Stone vs. Biblical Account
Feature/Claim | Moabite Stone (Mesha Stele) | Biblical Account (2 Kings 3, etc.) |
King of Moab | Mesha |
Mesha
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King of Israel | Omri (and his descendants) |
Omri, Ahab, Joram |
Moabite Rebellion | Described as victory over Israel | Described as rebellion after Ahab’s death
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Israelite Cities Named | Ataroth, Nebo, Madaba |
Same cities listed in Numbers, Joshua
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Worship of Yahweh | Yahweh named as Israel’s god |
Yahweh central to Israelite religion
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Taking of Sacred Vessels | Mesha claims to take Yahweh’s vessels | Spoils of war common in biblical texts |
Conclusion
The video asserts that the Moabite Stone is a critical archaeological discovery that confirms key details of biblical history, including the existence of Israel, its kings, and the worship of Yahweh.
It argues that this evidence undermines claims of biblical corruption or fabrication, particularly those made by Islamic and atheist critics, and supports the Bible’s authenticity as a historical document1.
Citations:
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Section #4: Chemosh Perversion
Did Chemosh Worship Include Sexual Rituals?
The available evidence suggests sexual rituals were associated with broader Canaanite and Moabite religious practices, though direct references to Chemosh-specific orgies or temple prostitutes are limited. Here’s a synthesis of the data:
1. Sexual Rituals in Moabite Religion
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Moabite Fertility Cults:
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Temple Prostitutes: Sources describe Moabite fertility worship involving ritual sex with temple prostitutes, though these practices are more explicitly linked to Baal-Asherah worship in Canaanite contexts[^4^][^6^].
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Numbers 25:1–3: The Israelites engaged in sexual immorality with Moabite women during a festival, likely tied to pagan rituals[^9^]. This implies Moabite religious events incorporated sexual acts to invoke fertility or divine favor.
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Chemosh and Child Sacrifice:
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Chemosh worship is explicitly tied to child sacrifice (e.g., Mesha’s son in 2 Kings 3:27)[^1^][^7^].
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No direct textual link to sexual rites exists for Chemosh, unlike Baal or Asherah[^3^][^4^].
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2. Broader Canaanite Influence
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Shared Practices:
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Sympathetic Magic: Canaanite fertility cults (e.g., Baal-Asherah) involved ritual sex to “stimulate” divine fertility[^4^]. Moabites likely adopted similar practices due to cultural proximity.
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Temple Prostitution: Male and female shrine prostitutes served in pagan temples across the region, including Moab[^6^][^9^].
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Chemosh and Molech:
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Molech (Ammonite god) and Chemosh are often conflated in later texts. Molech worship explicitly included child sacrifice and possibly ritual sex to produce sacrificial children[^2^][^8^].
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Leviticus 18–20: Condemns cultic same-sex acts tied to Ashtoreth (a fertility goddess), which may have influenced Moabite practices[^5^].
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3. Archaeological and Biblical Evidence
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Mesha Stele:
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Records Mesha’s devotion to Chemosh but omits sexual rituals[^7^].
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Focuses on military victories and temple-building[^1^][^7^].
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Biblical Condemnations:
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1 Kings 11:7: Chemosh is called an “abomination” but without explicit sexual connotations[^1^].
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Jeremiah 48:7: Links Moab’s downfall to Chemosh worship but does not mention sexual rites.
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Conclusion
While Chemosh worship centered on child sacrifice and war rituals, Moabite religion likely included sexual elements via syncretism with Canaanite fertility cults (e.g., Baal-Asherah). Direct evidence for Chemosh-specific orgies is absent, but regional practices suggest temple prostitution and ritual sex were part of broader pagan worship influencing Moab.
Key Distinction:
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Chemosh: Primarily a war/state deity associated with child sacrifice.
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Baal/Asherah: Fertility deities linked to ritual sex and prostitution[^4^][^6^].
For further details, see Numbers 25:1–3 (Moabite sexual rites) and 2 Kings 3:27 (Chemosh’s demand for child sacrifice)[^9^][^1^].
Citations:
- https://www.compellingtruth.org/who-Chemosh.html
- https://www.truthinlove.com/casting_out_demons/Sexual/Sins/child_molestation.htm
- https://israelmyglory.org/article/the-battle-of-the-gods-paganism%EF%BB%BFs-seduction-of-israel/
- https://www.thattheworldmayknow.com/fertility-cults-of-canaan
- https://anglicantaonga.org.nz/features/bible/holiness_cose
- https://markinc.org/daily-treasure-devotion/ruth-the-moabite
- https://study.com/academy/lesson/chemosh-overview-mythology-god-moabites.html
- http://www.2bcsouthside.org/Bible_Study_Page/2019/notes19/04172019.html
- https://biblehub.com/numbers/25-1.htm
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