A Jewish Leader:

Tries to Refute Jesus

A crisis entered the home of a faithful Jewish family.

Their precious daughter had seriously investigated the evidence for Yeshua, [Jesus] being the genuine Jewish Messiah, promised in the Old Testament, fulfilled in the New Testament.

The daughter left the horror stricken father with a spiritual challenge, that the father, being an excellent scholar felt would be an easy task.

What the father began to realize was that his religion and his community faith was not based on the source documents of the Old Testament, and therefore could not clearly realize what the New Testament had to say.

The rest of his testimony will be clear enough as he shares it from his own experience.

Hope you can enjoy this, and share this with anyone in a similar situation.

Grace and peace to you, with God’s shalom.

Brother THOMAS

Here’s a detailed summary of the video “Jewish Influential Leader Tries to Refute Jesus, Ends Up Proving He IS Messiah!!”, organized with timestamps, section headings, primary points, and supporting thoughts/examples.

‍ A Shocking Phone Call From His Daughter (00:01–01:20)

Primary Point: The speaker receives a life-altering phone call from his daughter, Judy, who reveals she now believes Jesus is the Messiah.

Judy, a Jewish student at Boston University, asks to read a heartfelt letter she couldn’t bear to mail.
The father’s emotional reaction: “This is impossible—you’re Jewish, you can’t believe in Jesus.”
Describes intense confusion, shock, and heartbreak at what felt like a betrayal of Jewish identity.

Seeking Rabbinic Advice (01:20–02:35)

Primary Point: He consults his rabbi for guidance, hoping to make sense of his daughter’s sudden change.

The rabbi downplays the issue, suggesting Judy has been “brainwashed” and will return.
His emotional turmoil deepens; family members avoid confronting Judy upon her return home.
Tension builds within the family as Judy is asked to explain her new beliefs.

Clash of Worldviews and Daughter’s Challenge (03:04–04:34)

Primary Point: Judy insists Jewish belief in Jesus is not unprecedented and challenges her father to examine scripture himself.

Father refuses to believe Jews can follow Jesus, equating it with going “north and south at the same time.”
Judy states, “That’s not true,” citing historical Jewish believers in Jesus.
She challenges him to read the Bible for himself: “It’s either true or false.”

Attempt to Disprove – First Encounter With the Bible (04:34–06:48)

Primary Point: He begins reading the New Testament intending to disprove Jesus as the Messiah—but is deeply moved.

Begins with the Gospel of Matthew; expects hate but instead finds compassion and truth.
Remarkably, had never read the Hebrew scriptures thoroughly—only prayer books and Talmud portions.
By Reading the Gospel of John (Chapter 5), he is struck by Jesus’ words linking Moses and Himself.

John 5:45-47 (KJV)

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father:

There is one that accuseth you,

Even Moses, in whom ye trust.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me:

For he wrote of me.

But if ye believe not his writings,

How shall ye believe my words?

[Hopefully, the modern Jewish skeptic can see the flawless logic of the Messiah reasoning with the mind of the Jew: Calling him to use his intellectual power for the sake of the truth, that is simple enough for a young child to believe and understand.]

Realization Through Acts – God’s Inclusion of Gentiles (07:15–10:01)

Primary Point: The Book of Acts shatters his understanding of Jesus as only “for the Jews.”

Peter’s vision (Acts 10) and encounter with Cornelius reveals God’s Spirit falling on Gentiles.
Early Jewish disciples are stunned—Messiah is for all people, not only Jews.
He’s bewildered: “How is Jesus now for Gentiles, but no longer for Jews?”

Emotional Breakthrough – Psalm 22, Isaiah 53 (10:01–11:46)

Primary Point: Messianic prophecies in the Hebrew scriptures reveal Jesus’ role as the suffering Messiah.

Reads Psalm 22: sees an image of crucifixion—Jesus on the tree.
Isaiah 53 devastates him: understands Jesus bore the punishment for sin.
Cries, overwhelmed: “Why have we never read this in synagogue?”

Isaiah 53 & Psalm 22, devastatingly expose the truth that the Messiah must suffer and die for the sins of his people, in order to become the holy Passover Lamb of God who takes away the sense of the world.

Isaiah 53 (KJV) [“It doesn’t get any clearer than this.”]

1 Who hath believed our report?
and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb,
so he openeth not his mouth…

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors…

[And the message of Isaiah 53 continues to the end of the chapter point by point, pointing to the Messiah; To the work upon the cross; To the resurrection of the king; To the salvation of all who would call upon his name. And to the ushering in of the kingdom of God for all eternity.]

[Psalm 22 tells a similar story, and possibly even more detailed and gruesome. From the prophet King David. It appears that King David saw the very crucifixion, Play it out in a visual drama, in a vision, and recorded it 1000 years before it actually occurred.]

Psalms 22 (KJV) [condensed diversion]

1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? …

[the very words spoken by Jesus while dying on the cross]

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6 But I am a worm, and no man;
a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn:
they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying:

“He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him:
let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.”

[Jesus enemies spoke these very words while he was dying on the cross.]

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11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near;
for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me:
strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths,
as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint:
my heart is like wax;
it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd;
and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws;
and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me:
the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me:
they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones [are unbroken]:
they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them,
and cast lots upon my vesture.

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22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren:
in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
neither hath he hid his face from him;
but when he cried unto him, he heard.

25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation:

26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied:
they shall praise the LORD that seek him:
your heart shall live for ever.

27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD:
and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

28 For the kingdom is the LORD’s:
and he is the governor among the nations.

29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship:
all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him:
and none can keep alive his own soul.

30 A seed shall serve him;
it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness
unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

[See Psalm 22: A Terrible Vision, for a deeper look into Psalm 22]

Covenant and Prophecy – Jeremiah & Daniel (11:46–13:36)

Primary Point: Discovers direct scriptural references to the Messiah and a New Covenant with Israel.

Jeremiah 31:31: God promises a new covenant with Israel—not just Gentiles.
Daniel 9 (esp. v.26): Predicts the Messiah will come before the destruction of the temple in 70 CE.
- He realizes: Either this prophecy is false, or the Messiah already came—before 70 CE.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 (KJV)

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that:

I will make a New Covenant

with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
in the day that I took them by the hand
to bring them out of the land of Egypt;
which my covenant they brake, [They broke that covenant]

although I was an HUSBAND unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD:

I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,

Know the LORD: for they shall all know me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.

Daniel 9:21-27 (KJV)

21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation [SACRIFICE]. 22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said:

O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding. 23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

[Note: in this biblical prophecy 1 week equals 7 years.
Therefore: 70 weeks equals 490 years = 70 x 7 = 490]

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy People and upon thy Holy City:

to finish the transgression, and

to make an end of sins, and

to make reconciliation for iniquity, and

to bring in everlasting righteousness, and

to seal up the vision and prophecy, and

to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be:

seven weeks, [7×7 = 49, therefore it will take 49 years to rebuild the city of Jerusalem, once the Jews are declared to be free from Babylon and sent back to repair their own city and live there.]

and threescore [60] and two weeks:

The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

[Note: in British English a Score is 20, and 3 Score is then 60. Threescore and two weeks equals 62 weeks. Now add 62 weeks to 7 weeks (62 x 7 = 434 years, plus 7 x 7 = 49 years. Add those for a total = 483 years, which is mathematically, one week short of 490 years, That one missing week will become important later]:

26 And after threescore and two weeks [After the 7 weeks, and also the 62 weeks = 62 x 7 = 434 years, 7 x7 = 49, and totalled up again to 483 years] shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:

Verse 26, points to the Crucifixion.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Verse 27, points to the last 7 year reign of the Anti-Christ, before the return of Christ.

[Now, it just so happens that from the time of the decree to rebuild the city, to the day the Messiah, it was 483 years.

Note: There were three significant decrees, regarding the rebuilding of Jerusalem, the most thorough decree was given by:

Artaxerxes I:

In 457 BC, Artaxerxes I, (Son of Xerxes) issued a third major decree, which went beyond the previous ones 3 5 6.
His decree:
- Granted full religious and political autonomy to the Jews.
- Restored ancient privileges to priests and Levites, including exemption from taxes and tributes (Ezra 7:24).
- Allowed Ezra to appoint magistrates and judges, giving the Jewish community authority to govern itself by its own laws(Ezra 7:25)3.
Artaxerxes’s decree is often seen as the one that fully addressed the “restoring and building” of Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25), as it included both religious and civil restoration 3 5 6.

Note: The date of this decree also square with the Daniel 9:24ff prophecy, When the Messiah would come.

When Do Most Scholars Believe Jesus Was Born?

Most scholars place the birth of Jesus between 6 and 4 BC. This estimate is based primarily on the historical reference to the reign of King Herod, who died in 4 BC, and the Gospel accounts that situate Jesus’ birth during Herod’s rule1 2 3 5 79. Some sources extend the possible range slightly earlier, but the consensus centers on 6–4 BC.

When Did Jesus Start His Public Ministry?

The Gospels state that Jesus was “about 30 years of age” when he began his ministry (Luke 3:23) 8 9. Using historical references—particularly the “fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar” (Luke 3:1), which corresponds to AD 28 or 29—most scholars date the start of Jesus’ public ministry to around AD 27–29 8 9.

Summary Table

Event	Scholarly Consensus Date	Key Evidence/Reasoning
Birth of Jesus	6–4 BC	Herod’s reign, Gospel accounts
Start of public ministry	AD 27–29	Age “about 30,” Tiberius’ 15th year

Additional Notes

The length of Jesus’ ministry is generally estimated at about three years, ending with his crucifixion, which is commonly dated between AD 30 and 36 8 10.
The traditional AD/BC calendar system was developed centuries after Jesus’ lifetime and contains some calculation errors, which is why Jesus’ birth is now thought to precede “AD 1” by several years 2 7.

In summary:
Most scholars believe Jesus was born between 6 and 4 BC and began his public ministry around AD 27–29, when he was about 30 years old 1 2 5 89.

Citations:

Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share

Influence on Prophecy

All three decrees contributed to the fulfillment of the prophecy in Daniel 9:25 regarding the restoration and rebuilding of Jerusalem.
However, many scholars see Artaxerxes I’s decree in 457 BC as the most complete fulfillment, as it provided not only for the temple but also for the full restoration of Jewish religious and civil life3 56.

In summary, Cyrus initiated the return and temple rebuilding, Darius I reaffirmed and protected the process, and Artaxerxes I completed the restoration by granting full religious and civil autonomy to the Jewish community2 35.

Citations:

Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share

Now we need to pick up the Daniel Prophecy again. After the death of the Messiah, who died, but not for himself… in verse 26

26 … and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

[Here Daniel Predicts the Fall and total destruction of Jerusalem, which ties into Jesus’ Prophecy about the same event: Matthew 24: 1-51, Jesus Longest and most detailed Prophecy. This passage is known as the Olivet Discourse. It is widely recognized by scholars as Christ’s most extensive prophetic sermon, addressing the destruction of the Temple, the signs of the end times, and his second coming. 1 5. It is clear here that Jesus and Daniel are prophesying about the same things and events to come.

Next, Daniel jumps to the final seven year prophetic period, often labeled “The Great Tribulation.” This is declaring the last final 7 years of the Anti-Christ Reign upon the Earth, before the Second Coming of Christ. For a more thorough and clear teaching on this subject check out Chuck Missler’s Teaching on Daniel, and Revelations.

Internal Conflict During Conference Trip (13:36–16:46)

Primary Point: He wrestles with inner turmoil at a conference and meets Messianic Jews.

Goes to San Francisco for a professional panel.
Hears about an “international convocation of Messianic Jews” (sarcastically assumes there must be only eight).
Meets Lillian, a believer, who asks, “Who is your God?”—he’s stunned and unable to answer clearly.

Turning Point – Request for Prayer (16:46–End)

Primary Point: Deep spiritual turmoil leads him to ask for prayer for the first time in years.

Lillian’s question deeply unsettles him; he reflects on how rarely he’s thought of God.
Attends sessions but is mentally and emotionally elsewhere, consumed by internal struggle.
In the final moments, he quietly asks a fellow attendee to pray for him—a sign of spiritual softening and awakening.

For Jewish families and others that would like to turn the above topic into a family or small group discussion here’s an excellent format that may be helpful:

Here’s a Small Group Discussion Guide based on the testimony outline: A Jewish Leader Discovers Jesus is the Messiah. This version is designed to encourage thoughtful conversation, Scripture engagement, and personal reflection.

Small Group Discussion Guide

A Jewish Leader Discovers Jesus is the Messiah

Session Goal:

To explore the journey of a Jewish leader who came to believe that Jesus is the Messiah, examining scriptural truths, personal transformation, and how God continues to reveal Himself today.

1. Background & Identity (5–10 mins)

Main Point: The story begins with a man rooted in Jewish tradition and culture.

Read:

Philippians 3:4–6 – Paul describes his Jewish credentials.
Acts 22:3 – Paul’s upbringing and education.

Discussion Questions:

What can we learn about Paul’s identity before encountering Jesus?
How does religious background shape a person’s view of God?

Reflection Prompt:

Have you ever held strong beliefs that later shifted? What prompted that change?

2. The Turning Point (10–15 mins)

Main Point: A divine encounter radically changed the trajectory of Paul’s life.

Read:

Acts 9:1–9 – Paul’s encounter with Jesus on the road to Damascus.

Discussion Questions:

What stands out to you about Paul’s encounter?
How does God sometimes break into our lives unexpectedly?

Reflection Prompt:

Have you or someone you know experienced a “Damascus moment”—a sudden realization or spiritual wake-up call?

3. Transformation & New Identity (10–15 mins)

Main Point: Meeting Jesus changed Paul’s identity, mission, and worldview.

Read:

2 Corinthians 5:17 – “If anyone is in Christ…”
Galatians 1:13–16 – Paul’s transformed calling.

Discussion Questions:

What does it mean to have a new identity in Christ?
Why was it significant that Paul, a Pharisee, became an apostle to the Gentiles?

Reflection Prompt:

What has changed in your life since encountering Jesus?

4. Faith in Jesus as the Jewish Messiah (10 mins)

Main Point: Paul came to believe that Jesus is the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy.

Read:

Isaiah 53 – The suffering servant
Acts 17:2–3 – Paul reasons from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Messiah.

Discussion Questions:

Why is it important to see Jesus in the context of Jewish prophecy?
What do fulfilled prophecies reveal about God’s plan?

Reflection Prompt:

How can knowing Jesus as the Jewish Messiah deepen your appreciation of the Bible?

5. Application & Invitation (10 mins)

Main Point: Paul’s story invites everyone—regardless of background—into a relationship with Jesus.

Read:

Romans 1:16 – The gospel is for the Jew first, then the Gentile.
Romans 10:9–13 – The universal invitation to salvation.

Discussion Questions:

What barriers (cultural, spiritual, personal) might people face in accepting Jesus?
How does Paul’s story encourage you to share your faith?

Reflection Prompt:

Is there someone in your life who needs to hear this kind of testimony?

Closing Prayer:

Pray for:

Deeper understanding of God’s redemptive plan
Boldness in sharing the gospel
Anyone in the group who is on their own journey of discovery

Here’s a big picture framework of the timeline of end time events.

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvZ4aGLWTOs”

A question gets raised, for me about the millennial reign, how could men be so evil to live 1000 years in the presence of God, and under the righteous and precious rulership of the son of God, and still be deceived and lead into rebellion at the end of that rain when the enemy, Satan, is released from the pit or the abyss, and allowed to deceive the nations one final time?

And sadly, the devil amasses a massive army of untold souls who decide to march against God and against his holy city Jerusalem. How does such wickedness exist? That is the question of the ages.

Below are 2 short dialogues between a deeply committed and confirmed atheist, and I suppose a demon. The discussion is completely fictional, but the possible mindset and darkness involved in the discussion may not be. See for yourself.

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc7-JIhJ66I”

—From God's Perspective

A Jewish Leader:

Tries to Refute Jesus

A crisis entered the home of a faithful Jewish family.

Even Moses, in whom ye trust.

3 He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.

[See Psalm 22: A Terrible Vision, for a deeper look into Psalm 22]

I will make a New Covenant

I will put my law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts;
and will be their God,
and they shall be my people.

[Note: in this biblical prophecy 1 week equals 7 years.
Therefore: 70 weeks equals 490 years = 70 x 7 = 490]

When Do Most Scholars Believe Jesus Was Born?

When Did Jesus Start His Public Ministry?